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AI Is Turning Everyone Into An Ineffective Marketer & Its Other Impacts On Digital Marketing
AI is a valuable tool, but it shouldn't replace the core skills of human marketers. However, it's making everyone a marketer, but not an effective one.
Gain a fresh perspective on the role of Artificial Intelligence (AI) in the world of marketing. In this video, Ryan Deiss, Ralph Burns, and Kasim discuss the evolution of AI in marketing over the past year. They also explore its potential impact on marketers and why mastering the tool doesn't really give you an edge in digital marketing.
Ryan also emphasizes that marketers should prioritize mastering the basics of marketing, particularly messaging and amplification, instead of solely relying on AI for copywriting and messaging. Learn valuable insights into the evolving marketing landscape and how marketers can stay competitive in this changing environment, Listen to this episode now.
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0:00 AI Is Turning Everyone Into An Ineffective Marketer & Its Other Impacts On Digital Marketing
2:52 What AI did
4:45 Simplicity beyond complexity
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Everyone's talking about AI. 2 But where do you see it all going in the next year or so? 3 And what can marketers expect? 4 I'll tell you it's wild because my last TNC keynote was basically 5 in the fourth quarter of 2022. 6 And I'm really excited. 7 Trafficking conversion summit is getting back into the first quarter it was always 8 a Q1 event and then COVID happened and there was all the shuffling around of 9 spaces and it got moved into September, October, there's too many other events 10 around that same period of time. 11 And I always loved Traffic and Conversion Summit being that event 12 that sort of kicked off the year. 13 That's why I loved it being in kind of January, February. 14 There were sometimes we were later March. 15 Even to me, that was too long. 16 I loved it being that event that kicked things off. 17 I always saw it as my job for the opening keynote to try to set the tone 18 for what I felt was going to matter in , digital marketing for that next 19 year when I think about my keynote last year, there were plenty of things 20 that were just dead on bullseye, right? 21 But one thing that was not featured at all in my keynote was AI. 22 I absolutely mentioned it because people were starting to talk about 23 it, but this was pre Chat GPT. 24 I think Chat GPT came out maybe three or four weeks was when 25 the announcement was after TNC. 26 And so when I think about all that has happened since that last keynote, it's 27 safe to say it's been a lot, right? 28 It's also safe to say it hasn't been that much, right? 29 And I'm not trying to underplay AI and the importance of AI. 30 I also don't want to conflate. 31 A lot of people do chat GPT with AI, they act as though they're one in 32 the same, but no, there's lots of different AI, platforms and how it's 33 going to impact what we're doing. 34 There's not going to be a ton of AI in my opening keynote at 35 Traffic and Conversion Summit. 36 we're gonna have plenty of sessions on A. 37 I. 38 T. 39 N. 40 C. 41 Like you go A. 42 I. 43 Tastic. 44 There's a whole track on it, and it's gonna be amazing. 45 As far as I'm concerned, in my experience, A. 46 I. 47 Is a tool . The analogy that I use and when I'm talking to all the marketers on 48 our different teams, I'm saying, look, AI is not going to put you out of business. 49 What it did is it made the great photographers even better. 50 And what it also did is it made it to where everybody 51 could produce something decent. 52 If you learned the tool right now, you move that all the way forward into like 53 filters in Instagram and stuff like that. 54 And now I could take a crappy photo on my slap some filters on it. 55 And what do you know? 56 I'm a freaking photographer. 57 I do believe that AI. 58 It's turning everybody into a marketer. 59 The thing is, it's turning everybody into kind of a crappy marketer. 60 When everybody's doing marketing, and when everybody thinks they can 61 do marketing, is the edge going to come from mastering the tool? 62 I think that a basic understanding of the tool is going to be essential. 63 But I don't believe the edge any longer is going to come. 64 I think if you ignore the tools and don't use them, you'll be left behind. 65 . I'm not saying that, but I don't believe that mastery of all the tools is going 66 to be the thing that gives you an edge, because I think at the end of the day, 67 that's going to be a rush to the bottom. 68 Everybody's going to have this. 69 The tools will get better and you'll get, you'll be good at them. 70 Just out of the box in the same way that, everybody and 71 their dog is good at Instagram. 72 You select your thing. 73 It's fine. 74 You don't have to know how to. 75 What the contrasts and the shadows and the filters and all that, you don't 76 have to know that it does it for you. 77 AI is going to be the same way. 78 It's going to be built into all the tools that we're using. 79 Tool mastery is going to give you some slight edges now, 80 and I think you need to do it. 81 Your team needs to do it. 82 But I don't believe that's where it's going to come from. 83 So when the world gets more complicated, there's two types of people. 84 There's one type of person who sees complexity and flees towards it. 85 And they want to seek to understand an unraveled complexity. 86 And in doing so, they tend to make things more complicated. 87 And these are the people who are always the first on all of the trends. 88 And then there's people who see complexity and they flee to simplicity. 89 , I've known a lot of people over the past couple of decades of working in marketing 90 and working with business owners. 91 And in my experience. 92 The people that flee to simplicity are the people who build great companies. 93 They're the people who do big things. 94 The people that flee to understanding all of the complexity and creating their 95 own complexity, they're the ones that get a slight edge and look really smart 96 for a season and then they blow out. 97 And to me, the ultimate example of this is Jeff Bezos. 98 He did an interview and he said, the question that we're always 99 asking at Amazon, Is not what's going to change the question. 100 We're always asking is what won't change and how do we get better 101 at the things that won't change. 102 And so as I'm thinking about marketing and as I'm talking and advising the 103 marketers across all of our different portfolio companies, I'm inviting 104 them to ask that question and saying, let's double down on those things. 105 And so a lot of what we talked about at the beginning, what were we saying? 106 Like getting back to some basics. 107 Re evaluating the things that used to work because as big as AI is, I think an 108 even bigger change that's taking place right now is the macroeconomic change. 109 People have been doing marketing for the last 10 years. 110 , only the last 10 years, you've literally only ever marketed during a bull cycle. 111 That's such important point that all of us are going to get such 112 a rude awakening so very soon. 113 It helps to be old, I launched 114 The first, two recessions ago, the dot com bust, right? 115 1999 was when I launched my first business, and I saw that happen. 116 And I watched the run up until 2008, 117 I watched it all come back down again. 118 And so to me, looking at what's happening right now, it's not the same as those. 119 It rhymes a bit. 120 But I think that's the bigger impact than AI. 121 And I think marketers understanding how to market during this time, 122 it's going to come down to not mastering the latest tools. 123 It's going to come down to getting the basics really right. 124 So that's the question I ask is okay, let's get it down to first principles. 125 What is marketing? 126 And to me, ultimately marketing is two things, messaging 127 and it is amplification. 128 That's all marketing ever is. 129 It's, I need to have a message that I'm putting out to the market 130 and I need to amplify that market. 131 Every aspect of marketing is going to filter into one of those two categories. 132 Messaging is obviously copywriting, but it's also offer structure. 133 Pricing is messaging. 134 Funnel design to a large extent is messaging. 135 What is the sequence of offers that I'm going to make? 136 The sequence of messages that I'm going to make, and then 137 how do I amplify those things? 138 Prior to, and really for the last 15 years, most of the gains and 139 most of the wins happen through being really good at amplification. 140 And the reason I can say that is think about the title of the show. 141 What are we talking about? 142 Perpetual traffic, Kossum, , what are you amazing at? 143 Google ads like traffic, Ralph, same Facebook. 144 You're talking about Facebook ads. 145 And I'm not saying that you guys have grown as complete marketers 146 and you get the messaging and the funnel side of it as well, too. 147 That's why you built companies because you got all of that, but there are a 148 lot of marketers who the only thing they understand is amplification. 149 And I'm here to tell you, if you amplify a turd, it's still a turd. 150 But there was a lot of money to be made. 151 In all cases from just the pure amplification side, the gains happen 152 from learning the new channels, figuring out the algorithms, all 153 the gains were from the messaging. 154 What's the world we're in right now? 155 Targeting. 156 I'm not saying it's dead, but man, come on. 157 Compared to what we used to be able to do. 158 Give me a fricking break. 159 It doesn't matter as much SEO. 160 I'm not, again, I'm not saying you can't do it. 161 You can, but I remember when SEO was just stuffing a bunch of 162 keywords in the bottom of the web page, , same color as the background 163 . It's changed. 164 So if that's not where the gains happen, I think the gains are going to happen. 165 On the messaging side and so unpack that a little bit more if we're really going 166 to split out the messaging component. 167 I think there's the messaging is in the actual words, but I 168 think there's also the funnel. 169 , if I were to think about what is marketing today and what is 170 the job of marketers, the job of marketers, get buyers from scratch. 171 . Go out and get some friggin buyers. 172 Whether you call those buyers, customers, clients, patients, get the buyers even, 173 might say, Oh, I need to get leads. 174 That's Okay, but you're getting leads maybe to hand off to a sales 175 team, so you're getting buyers. 176 There's just an extra step there, right? 177 So if we're going to say that, like as marketers, we need to get buyers, 178 okay, what do we need to master? 179 What are the three things we need? 180 You got to have channel mastery still, although I don't think 181 that's where the gains are. 182 You got to have message mastery and you got to have funnel mastery. 183 And if you got those three things then I believe you win. 184 And I think in the past, we've had people geeking out about channels. 185 I think we've had people geeking out about funnels. 186 You look at all the stuff that Russell's done to really own that concept, 187 which I think is still critical. 188 That's the economic side of how does marketing work, is the funnel. 189 The one that has been ignored is messaging. 190 And it's the one that's continuing to get ignored because now people believe 191 they don't have to do that anymore. 192 Because AI is going to do it for me. 193 They're taking the one advantage that we actually have, and they're abdicating 194 the responsibility of what I believe is the one advantage of marketing to 195 a computer that has been trained on all the knowledge of the internet. 196 And the collective knowledge, the collective abilities of the internet 197 when it comes to copywriting is pretty freaking crappy. 198 Think about it. 199 It's been trained on all the websites on the internet, which we know most 200 copy And so if we're going to say that channels, while critical, Isn't 201 the advantage if we're gonna say that funnels, while essential, we generally 202 know what works and what doesn't. 203 There's a in the trenches blocking and tackling and testing that 204 needs to happen to get that right. 205 Where is the area of opportunity? 206 What's the thing that won't change? 207 I think it's messaging, and it's the one thing that all 208 marketers want to advocate to AI. 209 And I think that if it's the biggest mistake, and I think the 210 winners moving forward are gonna be those that remaster messaging. 211 Use the tools, yes, but don't abdicate. 212 So there's my rant. 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