Battle Royale: Should You Run Multiple Performance Max Campaigns?

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Welcome to the battle Royale here at solutions eights.

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This is an epic showdown, a meeting of the minds.

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Two men enter only one will leave death mesh.

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All right, I'll stop.

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First blood.

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What we're doing here is we're debating or less.

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We're having a friendly conversation about performance max campaigns.

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And whether it makes more sense to use multiple P max campaigns when and where

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it makes more sense to use multiple PX campaigns and when and where it makes

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sense to use a singular PMs campaign.

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Joining us are combatants.

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If you will in the left corner is one of our strategists here at solutions

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eight and then in the right corner is the Usama light keeps darkening,

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which makes you the villain Usama.

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I actually don't know who's on what side, I'm going to go first.

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of the things somebody said in the company, slack channel, when we said

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we're going to have the battle Royal is I hope our clients never watched this,

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which is true because it's like, well, gosh, it depends on so many things,

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geography company skew count, whatever.

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So we'll say there are no golden rules and there's a bunch of reasons

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why you would or wouldn't do this.

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But with that said, I think this is hyper relevant topic

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for our viewer base right now.

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So let's dive into it.

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I'll go first, if you want Usama.

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So I've kind of adopted the mindset of generally speaking.

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It's better to go with one performance max campaign because

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there a lot more dynamics to it.

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And so having multiple performance max campaigns can lead you into situations

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where one performance max campaign might be prospecting out and the other one might

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be just remarketing more so and so in order for those two to get aligned, I see

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a lot of issues and accounts that I have currently where even though they had the

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URLs excluded we're Same budget launched.

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Same time, same everything, pretty much just different products,

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different listing groups.

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There seems to be still some carry over from one campaign to the next.

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And so my whole thought process behind this was well.

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Why don't we just max out the asset groups in one campaign in order to

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pretty much feed the beast to where it's dynamically all in one meeting

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the campaign is working together.

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You don't have one campaign that's prospecting one that's not.

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And then leverage that data to then locate.

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Okay.

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These are top performing products and these aren't top performing products.

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And I'm talking about e-commerce generally in this conversation.

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The only time that I've really found it being very beneficial for multiple

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is if there's a huge discrepancy in the cost of the products.

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So if you have, like a thousand dollars products and then like a $50 product.

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Obviously Google is going to go for the point of least resistance

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to get you the highest ROAS.

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So the issue with that obviously is if you want to sell a lot

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more of a certain product.

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It's very hard to push the algorithm in that direction with a singular campaign.

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You can eventually expand out to it.

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And so, like I said, that's when scalability comes into play, but as

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for the main issues I see with multiple campaigns that solve that is that issue.

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So Usama on to your points about why multiple, I guess, performance maxes, or

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I never said I was going to do multiple campaigns, but I

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agree with most of what you say.

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Okay.

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Actually pretty much all of what you say, but what happened in the context

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where you have very large skew count with multiple collections and you're

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bounded by a hundred limit asset groups.

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That's 0.1.

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I kind of disagree with the different profitability.

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One because where we split it up based off how I guess the price

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points are and how profitable.

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And like, if you have one spending a thousand and you have another

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2000, because we've had accounts and we've combined them after we've

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had two instances where we had a very high price point products

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and very low price point products that we split out for that reason.

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But then we combined it again.

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It performed better together instead of being separate.

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So that, and the last thing I want to say, don't go off of what we say.

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It's very dependent on your niche, your products, your brand, your

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branding, your overall funnel.

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Majority of our cases were able to work with one campaign, but I have also been

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able to pretty much double in account's budget while giving a higher ROAS than

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what the client wanted in an account with a Browns launching eight campaigns.

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And they didn't have 100 asset group deal started with like six, seven asset groups.

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And now I think they're up to like 15, 20, so it's not like a ridiculous build

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out to, so that's heavily dependent on the type of products you have.

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And so I'm going to go deeper into what that was.

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So this was an account and when I decided to split it up, It initially started

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off with everything combined together.

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And then what we kind of noticed was because this person was

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carrying branded products.

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People were searching specifically for those brands.

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Now these are well-known brands in that niche.

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People go for them.

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So what we started doing was starting to split based off of each brand and

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then started categorizing the products in those asset groups accordingly.

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And their goal was five bucks.

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And we were heavily scaling during that time.

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Like each time we created a separate campaign we were setting up high budget.

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We were sending it at a a hundred dollars.

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Basically the original campaign had like things like 300 or 400 and each new

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campaign we launched, what's running, starting getting like a hundred, $150.

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So we'd set up eight.

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So we pretty much doubled tripled their budget and that one month and

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each one of those campaigns took off immediately based off of the brand.

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So what we kind of did after is like the brands that did really well, we identified

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like these are the brands that people liked is a private people do, and we're

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scaling those even more now, or the brands that didn't work out as properly.

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They don't work out as well.

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We kind of regroup them back together into a single campaign.

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And now that's doing better too, but it was interesting that happened here.

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I have an assertion based on what you just said, and I want you all to tell me

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what you think about this, because it's a golden rule and I know John wants to

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know golden rules for performance max.

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It sounds like it's one performance Max campaign per unique audience.

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Yes.

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So if the audience is the same, even if the products are disparate, have

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massive spreads, different margins.

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If the service is the same, as long as the audience is the same, it's

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in one performance Mex campaign.

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The minute you have a separate audience, cause I know we talk about splitting up

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performance max campaigns by language, which is separate audience, someone just

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said with the different brands, people are going after very specific brands.

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That's a different audience.

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I'm going to send you the niche . There was this niche and we were selling this.

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And that's what all the brands carried, essentially.

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Those two products are basically the two major ones.

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And these were like secondary ones, which we have a campaign for just this.

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And it's doing extremely well.

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This is a good example.

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I'm just going to say it because we're not giving away the client

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is so the Niche is maybe product.

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Separate PMax campaign for strollers separate Pmax campaign for car seats?

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No, no, no.

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It was PMX campaign for each brand.

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We don't even split up the asset if they're combined.

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So all babies strollers and the car seats and toys were in that ask the group

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Do separate PMax campaign for every stroller brand.

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Yeah.

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Essentially every baby brand we'd split up into a separate thing.

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And literally in a month we doubled their budget.

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again, build are well-known brands, like, think about it.

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Like parents do heavy research into those brands.

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They'd go after it.

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Right.

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And as soon as PMX is able to identify how far down the funnel they are, he's

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able to capture it right when they need.

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I wonder if the reason for that would be based on the fact that

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they're already established.

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And so they've already taken their slice of the pie and you're just

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leveraging that aspect of it.

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That's literally it like they're well established people know about them.

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You're literally going after that traffic and majority of our convergence impact.

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Those are campaigns are those Branded and right.

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It's like no brand stroller, brand blink, blink stroller, and P max

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is because it knows what to happen.

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It's absolutely crushing it going after the exact bottom

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of funnel traffic, it needs to.

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So for like the audience signals, roughly, like, are you using like,

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just, the normal setup or this like keywords URLs, converters.

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Like it's all just lumped into onekind of thing

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No, I have it split up.

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But it's not that aggressive is the word I'm going to use.

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It's not like we have like 50 asset groups built out.

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It's more like we have maybe 12 and that was built up by the way,

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based off the insights we got.

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And the interesting part was that I used insights from the other campaigns

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as well and I could use that audience because it was the same audience.

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Cause like the general niche of the products are the same.

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so because each pmax is probably going after different audiences testing them.

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I just thought the best ones I created as a group around them.

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Yeah.

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It makes a lot of sense.

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The cross-pollination of audience across PMX campaigns.

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That's a good debate point.

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Yeah.

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Well, such a unique and specific instance though.

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I think if you're carrying brands that are well-known right, you could get away

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with it and you could scale heavily.

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I won't say the name I once ran an account for a guy

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that was selling Nike shoes.

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I spent a lot of money on that campaign and all my conversions

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were literally branded.

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So if it's a well-known brand, right, people are searching for

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that brand in ridiculous amounts because they want their products.

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Right.

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It will go after those terms immediately.

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There's no thought behind it.

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Hmm.

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Yeah.

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That makes sense.

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I mean, I have an account that is doing something similar to that, I

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guess in that situation though it's v ery instead of segmenting by brand,

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it's more so by like product and then there's asset groups in there that are

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segmented out by brand that then use the keywords and then it's working.

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So that's why, I guess I wonder if maybe then depending on, the difference that

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could be like kind of a full test as if we can see which way is better to

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segments out, whether it be by general product type or if we go directly into

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brand and then lean more into that and see if that actually gives us a better.

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I personally think you should start with a catchall with a single camp, especially

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if you're carrying multiple brands.

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Start with.

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Everything combined to the other, but split your, a group based off of brands.

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Right.

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So, yeah, so we did do that.

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The issue came back down to sort of the idea I was talking about

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earlier, which was ROAS many of the ROAS goals were very different for

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one product versus another product.

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And so that kind of led to the algorithm favoring, like, okay,

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we can get this, we can scale this

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up

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And then this higher ROAS for this product might,

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may just be a byproduct of it.

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That goes back to the conversation that we had a while ago.

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I think this is John and I met it.

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Actually might've been all the strategies.

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We just can't have role-wise goals for early stage performance max campaigns.

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It's we're going to go spend, see what's possible.

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And then based off of performance, we can start to split things off and

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then apply ROAS goals if and when necessary, but for a client to come,

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fresh, new to performance max, which has all of them and say, I want to

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test performance max, and I need to get a three X, five X, 10 X, whatever.

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We can't do both of those things.

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It's like, we're going to test performance max, go learn, identify your audience.

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And then we'll figure out what the ROAS goal should be.

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This is actually a sales problem.

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We have a sales problem right now because we're selling the way that we

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were sold smart shopping, cause smart shopping it was like, Hey, generally

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speaking, we can get it to be a hundred percent ROAS on the vast majority

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of products that have an $80 AOV.

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And then we can scale that.

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And we had some clients who got up to 15000% ROAS with performance

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max ROAS isn't the first.

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Proof of concept with the audiences.

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The first step and ROAS is the second step.

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It's also a

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goal standard that we used to have with the rest.

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It's like if you have 50 conversions, you should set a ROAS

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goal of whatever you want on it

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that no longer takes effect here.

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Because when you think about it, that 50 conversions was for one network, right?

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So now we're across seven different networks, basically.

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Right?

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So what we really need in a month is like, A hundred plus conversions before we go

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any even consider putting ROAS on it.

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And just to add on to the ROAS argument, I don't like putting ROAS goal on it.

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I'd rather play around with my asset groups pair on with my listing groups till

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I maximize how much ROAS I can get and how much I can spend and get away with it.

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I've hit that plateau.

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That's when I put a ROAS pull on my accounts,

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I guess the way that I look at it, it's not necessarily, when I say ROAS goal

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I don't mean like setting a ROAS goal.

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I mean, just like that's the goal in my head for the client.

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And so it's like, okay, they spend this much, what is the

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Delta for them to reach that?

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And so like what I found a lot of times with performance max, is

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that, sometimes you come in too high or too low on the budget.

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And then you have to sort of like massage it to where you're

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like, okay, this is the goal.

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And then start to scale.

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Cause I found that performance max is essentially, a way of another combative.

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This is like the WWF, I guess y'all are young.

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So for you, it's the WWE.

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But like, somebody comes in halfway through the fight with a chair or a lamp.

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So we're having a battle Royal.

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And actually so far everybody agrees, this is a horrible fight.

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Yeah.

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It's good information.

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That's exactly right.

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We're talking about, when do you use one performance max campaign, when you use

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multiple performance max campaigns and this is a good opportunity to summarize.

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can, you give us what you think your summary is so far.

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Some of you give us what you think your summary is so far.

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They tell me everything that has been pulled and I'm going to count.

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So I mean, I guess for my understanding is we pretty much me and Usama agree on

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like 90% of the things that we discussed that having a one performance max campaign

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is generally good if you have all the assets built out, however, in certain

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instances, For specific situations.

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Like if you have a brand that's very established and you already have

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like a very designated audience and the audience pool of Google, then

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it makes a lot more sense to break it out into separate campaigns.

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I'm kind of the mindset of, I still think that if there's a discrepancy

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in product price, that there's still a reason to split out the campaigns.

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And so we're kind of going back and forth on that.

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What you have said.

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It's wrong.

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That's pretty much the context.

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So now what's your thought on one PMax versus multiple incomes?

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This lane back it'd be more like one always, always one.

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What about multiple languages?

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Multiple countries.

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And what if we have too many collections and not, I can't

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build enough asset groups.

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Yeah, that's the thing the, rule seems to be one performance max campaign,

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generally speaking, unless there's like really specific multiple countries,

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multiple languages, massive skew count.

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To the point that if someone was making right before I joined, if

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you find products that are going to perform better in a second.

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Probably because they have a dedicated audience, then you can spend those

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off in their own PMX campaign.

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My question there, and this gets a little philosophical, which that's where

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I like to go with this is it felt like smart shopping did a really good job

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at maximizing the value of a customer.

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So if you bought my bike, you're going to buy my tires

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on my bike, pumping my helmet.

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If I took the bike and I put it in its own PMX campaign.

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I don't think that Pemex campaign will then go sell you after you buy my bike.

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It's not going to go sell you my tires, my bike pump in my helmet,

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unless I build that into its own specific remarketing campaign.

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So maybe that's part of the strategy, but there's definitely not a set

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and forget ability to go back and milk your customers for more.

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Yeah.

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I think the remarketing that we were talking about earlier with John,

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that whole shift and everything was like a big factor that were like,

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I wondered why we were seeing some discrepancies on transitioning over

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from smart shop and do performance.

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Because you look at smart shop and you're like, oh my gosh, we're

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getting super good ROAS, but we're getting a ton of returning customers.

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And so that's sort of like 80 20 rule that, we were talking about earlier,

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which is like, performance max is going to be 8% towards new customers,

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20% towards returning customers.

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And then smart shopping is reverse of that.

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And so with the trade-off with the performance max is yes.

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You can keep scaling because it's going to keep prospecting for new customers.

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However, you have a tail behind that.

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You still have to cannibalize to try to say, okay, what else can

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we get out of these customers?

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So I think adding in that dynamic or marketing was definitely

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a really good call on that.

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And I think that'll help a lot of accounts.

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And I think just to advocate as point to smart shopping was 80% remarketing

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at 20% output, which made it really good for reoccurring customer

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people that let's, I don't know.

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A simple example is like someone selling their filter machine.

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They're going to need filters over and over again.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Any consumables.

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So you sold the device, but they're going to keep coming back for the filter.

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So smart shopping did a really good job of tracking.

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Who was coming back for it and kept going after it, because it was more remarketing.

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It was focusing on getting that customer to come back to you and buy more stuff.

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So if you had, like you said, something consumer based or conceivable

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based, it would do a really good job getting you back to the website.

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But because pmax is more outbound than remarketing, it gets the customer wants.

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And now it's your job to keep the customer alive in your, whether it's email,

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whether it's remarketing, whatever.

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Well, the way to keep the customer alive.

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What if we were to take our customer lists, build it into

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performance max, and make that an independent performance max campaign.

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Now I have my acquisition camera.

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That was some of this is more or less.

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Didn't you come up with this template or somebody?

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The acquisition capability, the marketing campaigns?

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No, but then those are audience signals.

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They might start off with the customer list and then it's

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just kind of go on tangent.

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So if Google led us to a targeting and we were able to update

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our customer lists every time.

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We can dynamically using Zapier so you can connect your CRM via Zapier, into

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Google ads, update the customer list.

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And then hopefully as long as you have the customer, this is being updated faster

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than Google can run out of customers.

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It won't expand beyond your marketing list.

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What's interesting.

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Sorry.

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Before I move on to my point of cadence that you were testing it on now.

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I'm testing it, not in that exact format, but just with a different segmentation

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with performance max that you have, I'm just trying to figure out what would

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be the most beneficial thing to do.

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But I wanted to do a quick point because there is also reasons to not do

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remarketing in Google for the fact that if you have like, when I say that, I

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mean, in reference to like a subscription.

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So like, if you're selling like a product that's gonna get purchased over and over

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again, there is other ways to then lean into that heavy, whether that be, if

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you have email remarketing, whether you have like a YouTube channel that covers.

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So the spend is going to fluctuate.

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And so I think that performance max, one thing that I've found

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is really good is that the fact that it goes after new customers.

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And then if you have a really good ecosystem that you can pull them into,

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you can, lower your LTV goals, find new customers, and it makes it a lot easier

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for you to essentially hit those goals without having to, spend as much on

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remarketing as you would have without it.

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You want to see where mark ambient dynamic market.

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Separate campaign, not performance max, let's do add onto the customer list.

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We actually did a test where we add in an updated customer list versus an older

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customer list and the updated customer lists outperformed the old customer list.

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So in theory, if you keep updating your customer lists like WhatsApp

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or something on an automated work manage, or automated way that asset

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group is what I'm going to call.

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It is probably going to continuously do extremely well and get better.

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So the point you just made, I don't know that we've tested automatically

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updating a customer list instead of performance, man, we haven't.

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The only reason I say that is because we'd launched an account with a customer list

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that we got an updated customer list and created another asset group around it.

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And that one did better.

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So like in my head, Does updating your customer list continuously update

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and get help improve performance?

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I think it depends on the product too.

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I mean, that's really what it comes down to.

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Is this your niche?

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Like, everything is so different.

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Like you can have something to where it's like, I only want new customers.

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I have a really good, system to keep those customers, but then, you have other

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some other campaign was like, well, we can increase the value of the LTV just if we

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were to remarket them a little bit more.

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And yeah, I think it's just based case by case.

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That's the thing that kind of, is fun and also very annoying sometimes.

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Cause you have to figure out what's wrong.

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We hit on those points, like you said, is that a better way?

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I like it said, yeah, this was like a weird.

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Went from P max to something else came the battle field and realized that

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we were all friends with same things, because we have a strategy channel.

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Once someone found something, we just thought testing the same

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thing and we get the same results.

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What can I say?

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There are no golden rules, but there are some recipes that before.

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Yeah, there are no gold rules is what keeps us in businesses and agency.

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Cause if we started identifying golden roses performance match, because of

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the strength, we have to pivot very quickly to an education company because

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nobody would pay us to keep doing this.

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Do you know what I mean?

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So not to sound like a predatory in a lot of ways, but the strategy is

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what keeps us in the money because, and I think Google is going to try

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to optimize the side of that someday.

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I think that's their goal.

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I don't know if they'll ever get there, but it's fun to watch them make very

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strong attempts, but the fact that we just use performance max in such a diverse set

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of ways think that's the reason you need to Google as person, or you need to use

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it, learn it well enough to be able to.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It was easier with smart shopping or performance max is completely

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different like Kevin said it differentiates in every industry.

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Like for an example, we talked about the usual stuff is creating one

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performance max campaign, but I have a client they're selling snipers enough

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ripoffs of hero, product disobey.

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And if I put everything in one performance max campaign

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let's say I spent $1,000, 900.

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$50 of that budget is going to snap.

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So it's eating out all the budget.

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So and it's not meeting the raw score.

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So what do I do?

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Do I turn it off?

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Do I turn off the hero product?

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80% of their revenue is coming from our product.

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I cannot turn it off.

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So what I can do is create a different performance max campaign and maintain

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that the role score is three X right now we're hitting two weeks.

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So what I did is that I take that snappy.

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I created different performance next campaign with like 10 or 15 asset groups.

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I gave a different budget and to test that other stuff, I just separated out.

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Yeah.

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That speaks to what we were talking about before you joined, which was.

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ROAS goals come away later.

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Cause PMX is testing so many different types of audiences that you can't

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learn an audience and have a while at the same time, it's a lucky accident

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when you do and it's happened to us, but that can't be expectation,

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especially with new accounts.

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It's a whole situation when new accounts.

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So we got to share this video with Mike and just get like the

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entire sales narrative needs.

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And I think we're getting there too as we're learning Pemex more.

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And if you're watching this, I think half of our listeners or

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Watchers or subscribers or whatever agencies, maybe more than that you

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got to change the way you sell Pemex.

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You can't promise a result.

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You're like the R and D department, it's like, Hey, I'm going to go

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figure out who buys from you.

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And then we'll figure out how we.

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The game has changed.

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Like you said, like you are promising 90 days and you have to give us like

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$100 for a smart shopping campaign.

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So it's using that a hundred dollars on just like shopping and dynamic

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remarketing now is TMX is still the boys.

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It is the same.

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Are you promising the same days, but it's using 100 dollars and shopping Gmail

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display discover YouTube, everything else.

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So the budget is more divided.

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as far as the conversions, we used to apply a goal of once we

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had 50 conversions and now the 50 conversions, we're just in one network.

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Now that they're across a Marriott of networks, you need way more conversions

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because Google has to go figure out how those networks are interfacing.

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And I think this becomes a multi-dimensional problem because

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it's not just about the conversions across multiple networks.

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Performance max is also of funnel.

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Yeah, performance max, if you have the content for it is going to the

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top of the funnel and trying to drag people down smart shopping didn't

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seem, even though it was display based, didn't seem to really be doing that.

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It was still very bottom of the funnel.

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So I think PMX is so much fun, but I think we've just

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scratched the tip of the iceberg.

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I also think that we're going to end up being a media creation agency to say

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that, but I mean, it's going to get, because we keep coming to our clients

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and we're like, all right, we need more.

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And they're like, we don't have it.

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And then we're like, all right, well, bye.

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Like that's not tenable, but creating that amount of media,

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that's going to be costly.

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So I don't know what the model changed there is, like sister

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agency adjusting the model.

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Coaching clients education, like how do we get people to create the amount of

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content and media that would be necessary to feed the beast, figuring out which

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media type of media performs best.

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Yeah.

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Why would the fact that the Google created videos perform shocks, shocks?

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I think those videos are amazing.

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Have you to tried making them they're so good.

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Like the Google ads thing you've got to ask to build

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other something they're so good.

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Oh yeah.

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Jasper was going to shoot a video on that.

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I'm going to go see where it is.

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I'll ask we Andra.

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Cool.

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How do we feel about the battle Royale?

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We did it

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did it,

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it started off with a sword fight.

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Ended up with coffee together.

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Cheers to that.

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Cool.

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Well like comment, subscribe, do all the things and we'll see you all tomorrow.